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Waukesha West, Kyle Moore has stepped down

Heidi Hamilton has resigned at Arrowhead as of today

Just heard Kettle Moraine is now open.

No coincidence that Waukesha West, Kettle Moraine, and Arrowhead are all battling compliance issues with Title IX. (Along with Oconomowoc, Mukwonago, Brookfield Central and Brookfield East.)

Trying to fill spots on benches just because football turnout is big is a direct result of Title IX. ADs need to learn to play to win in boys AND GIRLS sports...

This would make a GREAT public/private topic on the girls forum. Why do privates do better than publics in girls basketball? Maybe Title IX is the problem. Private schools don't have to comply with it, unless they're taking federal money. Do Newman or Heritage Christian even have a football team?

Heritage Christian has not had a football team for a few years now....

Very sad with all the turnover the past few years in the Classic 8

Waukesha West (along with South and North), Kettle Moraine, and Arrowhead (as well as Mukwonago, Oconomowoc and Brookfield East and Central) have been targeted by complaints of violations of Title IX. Girls in these schools/districts do not participate in interscholastic sports in proportion to the boys. Districts that do not comply with Title IX are threatened with loss of federal funding.

To come into compliance, schools need to either expand existing programs or create new sports. It's cheaper to expand existing sports, so the districts push quantity / participation in girls athletics. A focus not always in alignment with playing to win...

Private schools that do not accept federal funding don't have to comply with Title IX. Pius, CMH (or both) are always at the top of the Classic 8 standings in the three girls "power sports" (volleyball, basketball, soccer). Pius and CMH are D2-sized schools playing in a conference of D1 schools. I don't think Title IX is the only factor in this achievement gap, but it is an important one...

I'm failing to see the connection between Title IX compliance and more success for girls sports in private schools. I honestly think you're really reaching for that to be a reason that (supposedly) private schools do better in girls sports.

The only link I see here is if someone is making the claim that Title IX forces public schools to keep more kids active at various levels rather than cutting down to an elite group across the board, and that somehow that inhibits a program from being successful over the long haul. If that's the rationale, I don't necessarily agree. I've seen time and time again how an "elite" group of kids at a particular grade just doesn't pan out when they get to high school, and I would argue that if you look at average roster size at the high school level, it's often public schools that have smaller rosters and struggle to field freshmen teams - in part I think because they made the mistake of squeezing out too many kids at youth levels.

Take a group of 12 elite 5th graders. By the time they get to 9th grade, some have stopped improving and are freshmen-quality players, some have quit basketball entirely to pursue other things, and some are probably good enough to go straight to JV or varsity.. Do that for a couple years in a row, and it's easy to see how even a big public school suddenly can't field a freshmen team and struggles to get 10 players at the higher levels.

Some programs have gigantic numbers in their programs (Eisenhower boys and girls come to mind), and they have managed to turn that into a huge asset rather than a liability. And there are also many private schools that year after year have some of the largest rosters and largest number of high school participants, and that has not seemed to stand in the way of their success.

And to link these to the coaching changes suggests that someone thinks that the head coach wanted to have smaller teams but the administration forced them to keep more kids? Or that the coach was driven out because they weren't successful enough and that lack of success was due to Title IX affecting roster sizes? Or maybe I just don't understand the original point - which is why I originally asked for clarification!

Travis, I am not speaking of individual sports or individual sports where team statistics are kept. This is about team sports, specifically the "big 3" girls sports of volleyball, basketball, and soccer.

Look at the C8 standings in these sports over the past several years. I can't find a year where CMH or Pius finished lower than 3rd in any one of them! Can you?

Regarding Arrowhead, perhaps they have done a good job of developing participation in the individual girls sports so Title IX is not an issue as it once was. Given the combination of enrollment (2,300) and demographic (above average income), I can see how golf and tennis would be strong sports. Arrowhead's demographic is more akin to CMH or Pius than it is to Mukwonago or Waukesha North. Also, I recall the original Title IX complaint against Arrowhead resulted in construction of a brand new field hockey field. They were not part of the latest round of complaints lodged against Waukesha, Brookfield, Oconomowoc, Mukwonago, and Kettle Moraine.

I apologize for taking this thread off track. If you want to move it, feel free.

Travis, don't know how your statistic changes the facts: CMH or Pius (or both) finished no lower than 3rd in the C8 in volleyball, basketball, and soccer in recent times.

That's pretty good for 2 of any 8 teams in a conference, especially when they are both D2 and the rest of the conference is D1! Of course, both are private and the rest are public. Further bolstering my assertion that using total enrollment for divisioning purposes is a joke, and effective enrollment is better...

I meant either Pius or CMH (or both).