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alandoamazing
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:14:11 PM(UTC)

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No idea why. I'm sure we'll find out soon.

2013 could end up being quite a large class adding another scholarship to it.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:20:35 PM(UTC)

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Alando=Amazing wrote:
No idea why. I'm sure we'll find out soon.

2013 could end up being quite a large class adding another scholarship to it.

I'll bet he's tranferring back home to play for the Hawkeyes ...

More:
http://www.jsonline.com/...s/sports/147254835.html

http://www.uwbadgers.com...mtt/uthoff_jarrod00.html
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#3 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:28:30 PM(UTC)

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Creighton and Kansas State have been rumored... KSU would make sense as Bruce Weber recruited him out of high school at Illinois.

If he goes to a D1, he'll sit out another year, meaning he will end up with just three years to play after using his red-shirt this season.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:40:16 PM(UTC)

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Mick Jagger wrote:
Alando=Amazing wrote:
No idea why. I'm sure we'll find out soon.

2013 could end up being quite a large class adding another scholarship to it.

I'll bet he's tranferring back home to play for the Hawkeyes ...

http://www.uwbadgers.com...tt/uthoff_jarrod00.html



Pretty sure he would not have a scholarship anymore if he transferred within the B1G. Isn't that what happened with Sharif?
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#5 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:47:59 PM(UTC)

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Alando=Amazing wrote:
Mick Jagger wrote:
Alando=Amazing wrote:
No idea why. I'm sure we'll find out soon.

2013 could end up being quite a large class adding another scholarship to it.

I'll bet he's tranferring back home to play for the Hawkeyes ...

More:
http://www.jsonline.com/...s/sports/147254835.html

http://www.uwbadgers.com...tt/uthoff_jarrod00.html

Pretty sure he would not have a scholarship anymore if he transferred within the B1G. Isn't that what happened with Sharif?

You might be right, AA. Because it would be a transfer within the Big 10, besides having to sit out a season, he quite possibly would have to pay his own way.

Does anyone else have a definitive answer on this issue?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:59:19 PM(UTC)
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#7 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:17:11 PM(UTC)

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Mick Jagger wrote:
Alando=Amazing wrote:
Mick Jagger wrote:
Alando=Amazing wrote:
No idea why. I'm sure we'll find out soon.

2013 could end up being quite a large class adding another scholarship to it.

I'll bet he's tranferring back home to play for the Hawkeyes ...

More:
http://www.jsonline.com/...s/sports/147254835.html

http://www.uwbadgers.com...tt/uthoff_jarrod00.html

Pretty sure he would not have a scholarship anymore if he transferred within the B1G. Isn't that what happened with Sharif?

You might be right, AA. Because it would be a transfer within the Big 10, besides having to sit out a season, he quite possibly would have to pay his own way.

Does anyone else have a definitive answer on this issue?


did some research and found this site which explains the intraconference transfer rules for the different conferences.

however it hasnt been updated since september of 06 so a lot could have changed since then

and found this on MSU'S website hence the reference to MSU in the paragraph. hope it answers your question

BIG TEN INTRACONFERENCE TRANSFER RULE
Effective for Big Ten Tenders signed for the 2011-12 academic year, a
prospect who signs a National Letter of Intent with MSU and has not
triggered transfer status, would be required to complete one full year of
residence and be charged with the loss of one season of eligibility in all
sports should he/she enroll at a second Big Ten institution. If the signing
institution grants a complete release from the NLI, the prospect is
permitted to enroll at any other Big Ten institution without penalty.
The new intraconference transfer rule will also apply to returning studentathletes
who sign a Big Ten Tender for the 2011-12 academic year. It is
important to note that for student-athletes who have triggered transfer
status (e.g., returning student-athletes), there is no exception to the
residence requirement and loss of eligibility should the student-athlete
transfer to another Big Ten institution.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 9:21:49 PM(UTC)

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i wish i was a baller wrote:
Mick Jagger wrote:
Alando=Amazing wrote:
Mick Jagger wrote:
Alando=Amazing wrote:
No idea why. I'm sure we'll find out soon.

2013 could end up being quite a large class adding another scholarship to it.

I'll bet he's tranferring back home to play for the Hawkeyes ...

More:
http://www.jsonline.com/...s/sports/147254835.html

http://www.uwbadgers.com...tt/uthoff_jarrod00.html

Pretty sure he would not have a scholarship anymore if he transferred within the B1G. Isn't that what happened with Sharif?

You might be right, AA. Because it would be a transfer within the Big 10, besides having to sit out a season, he quite possibly would have to pay his own way.

Does anyone else have a definitive answer on this issue?


did some research and found this site which explains the intraconference transfer rules for the different conferences.

however it hasnt been updated since september of 06 so a lot could have changed since then

and found this on MSU'S website hence the reference to MSU in the paragraph. hope it answers your question

BIG TEN INTRACONFERENCE TRANSFER RULE
Effective for Big Ten Tenders signed for the 2011-12 academic year, a
prospect who signs a National Letter of Intent with MSU and has not
triggered transfer status, would be required to complete one full year of
residence and be charged with the loss of one season of eligibility in all
sports should he/she enroll at a second Big Ten institution. If the signing
institution grants a complete release from the NLI, the prospect is
permitted to enroll at any other Big Ten institution without penalty.
The new intraconference transfer rule will also apply to returning studentathletes
who sign a Big Ten Tender for the 2011-12 academic year. It is
important to note that for student-athletes who have triggered transfer
status (e.g., returning student-athletes), there is no exception to the
residence requirement and loss of eligibility should the student-athlete
transfer to another Big Ten institution.

I think this clarifies the eligibility issue, I'm still till vague on the scholarship money benefit for intra-conference transfers ....
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#9 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 5:37:08 AM(UTC)

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I am shocked and very bummed about this news. I was really looking forward to watching Uthoff get on the court this year. Also, this could really hurt down the road.
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#10 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 7:12:52 AM(UTC)

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He probably felt recruited over and didn't want to have to compete with Dekker. Not saying that's what happened...but coming in as a 4* and Mr. Basketball from Iowa probably wasn't expecting to have to compete against a 5* and Mr. Basketball from Wisconsin for playing time.
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#11 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 8:44:05 AM(UTC)

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BBALLCRAZY1212 wrote:
He probably felt recruited over and didn't want to have to compete with Dekker. Not saying that's what happened...but coming in as a 4* and Mr. Basketball from Iowa probably wasn't expecting to have to compete against a 5* and Mr. Basketball from Wisconsin for playing time.



Dekker will be mostly playing the 2 and 3 and Uthoff is a 4. After this year he would have got a ton of playing time, because who else do they have for the 4 spot? No one. So i don't think he felt recruited over, especially considering he was a pretty heralded recruit coming in.

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Alando=Amazing wrote:
BBALLCRAZY1212 wrote:
He probably felt recruited over and didn't want to have to compete with Dekker. Not saying that's what happened...but coming in as a 4* and Mr. Basketball from Iowa probably wasn't expecting to have to compete against a 5* and Mr. Basketball from Wisconsin for playing time.



Dekker will be mostly playing the 2 and 3 and Uthoff is a 4. After this year he would have got a ton of playing time, because who else do they have for the 4 spot? No one. So i don't think he felt recruited over, especially considering he was a pretty heralded recruit coming in.



This was my thought too. Unless Bohannon and Duken have shown more ability....
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Dekker is a great but he isn't a 2 nor close to a 3 at this moment, he still needs to develop better guard play and overall foot speed/quickness to play the 3 spot, he's a great stretch 4 for the big 10 at his level now...but losing Uthoff does hurt us tremendously he's high motor inside-out player, alot like Joe Krabbenhoft I think better than Joe IMO, been coaching against this kid for 2 summers and ever game he always played great, super tough, great IQ, he'll be missed greatly.
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Could be a woman. Don't always look for the obvious answer.
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#15 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 10:44:39 AM(UTC)

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jdub030 wrote:
Dekker is a great but he isn't a 2 nor close to a 3 at this moment, he still needs to develop better guard play and overall foot speed/quickness to play the 3 spot, he's a great stretch 4 for the big 10 at his level now...



Yes, the #13 recruit in the nation, #3 SF in the nation isn't close to a SF at this moment.....

You are in for an epiphany next year apparently. Have you ever even watched him play?? He is a prototypical 3. Has unreal ball handling skills and court vision for a kid who is 6'8" His athleticism is amazing. He is a 3 through and through.
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Buzz ran another talented player off...oh wait...

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#17 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:13:33 AM(UTC)

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Buzz ran another talented player off...oh wait...

:)



Silly Diener, Buzz doesn't run off the talented players, he runs off the players he recruits over.
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State Journal reporter spoke to him this afternoon. Doesn't seem like anything too crazy, just didn't like the system I guess.
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State Journal reporter spoke to him this afternoon. Doesn't seem like anything too crazy, just didn't like the system I guess.



Really confusing considering he chose this system out of high school, and has seen a guy like Leuer (who he is very similar to) have massive success in it.

Just really, really weird. Apparently it was a surprise to everyone, teammates included. I'm thinking the system thing is an excuse for homesickness or something of the like.


Like this quote from him:
"I see myself being a versatile 3-4 that can play inside and out and I think I’ll benefit more from another system."

What? How is Wisconsin's offense not perfect for an inside/out 3/4???
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Alando=Amazing wrote:
jdub030 wrote:
Dekker is a great but he isn't a 2 nor close to a 3 at this moment, he still needs to develop better guard play and overall foot speed/quickness to play the 3 spot, he's a great stretch 4 for the big 10 at his level now...



Yes, the #13 recruit in the nation, #3 SF in the nation isn't close to a SF at this moment.....

You are in for an epiphany next year apparently. Have you ever even watched him play?? He is a prototypical 3. Has unreal ball handling skills and court vision for a kid who is 6'8" His athleticism is amazing. He is a 3 through and through.



I think he will be amazing in the future. I think he will struggle next year as he is just to light. once he adds 20 to 25 lbs of muscle to his frame he will be able to excel in the bang, bang big 10. scout has Dekker listed at 6-7 190lbs.
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In granting Uthoff his release, the Badgers put restrictions on schools he could transfer to. Specifically, all of the other Big 10 schools, Iowa St and Marquette are no-no's.

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Why Iowa St?
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Why Iowa St?
Don't know. Can only speculate that perhaps UW & ISU have a home & home non-conference arrangement in the near future. Otherwise, no idea.

edit: I suppose another possibility would be some hard feelings between the 2 coaching staffs over some past or present recruiting matter.
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diener34 wrote:
Why Iowa St?
Don't know. Can only speculate that perhaps UW & ISU have a home & home non-conference arrangement in the near future. Otherwise, no idea.


i was wondering the same thing and couldnt find anything other than rumors as to why ISU was on the list.

the most common thing was that ISU and Wisconsin have been recruiting some of the same players and Wisconsin thinks that if Uthoff would go to ISU it would give ISU an advantage or something like that.

also seems to be a thought that UNI is his unofficial #1 option due to it being close to home and some of his former AAU team mates play there (don't know if this is true just what i read so if i am wrong feel free to let me know)
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