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baker18
#1 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 9:17:20 PM(UTC)
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With high school sports starting in a few weeks i figured i would create a pole about things figure to shape up in teh EVC this year in football. What is everyones predictions.

1. Waupaca: Loads of talent coming back especially beau ash and their qb. Poised for a deep playoff run and maybe a shot at state.
2. Xavier: lost alot from last year but have a great coach to motivate these kids. Tough first game against West De pere, but should coast once that is over with conference being decided against waupaca.
3. Little Chute: This may be a shocker to everyone, but i would not sleep on LC. had a very young team last year and won three games. Lose Keysers but bring back Albers , Job, and ciske. Dont play xavier so should have one less loss to worry about.
4. Clintonville: Their program has been rebuilding but looks to have a strong campeign this year.
5. Freedom: First playoff berth in awhile. Lose Jason Binz as head coach so a new coach and new system may take a while to fit together, but still could fight for playoffs.
6. FVL: First playoff berth in a few years last year with loads of seniors gone. A lot of young and unproven players, but could find ways to win games.
7. Berlin: showed potential winning three games last year, but just not enough depth or talent to greatly improve.
8. Ripon: went winless last year. Team has a lot to prove this season. Should be better, but still a long way to go until they get back to their supremecy.
9. Winneconne: New coach young team struggle all year and should finish at the bottom.
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#2 Posted : Monday, July 09, 2012 11:15:18 PM(UTC)

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Baker18 wrote:
With high school sports starting in a few weeks i figured i would create a pole about things figure to shape up in teh EVC this year in football. What is everyones predictions.

1. Waupaca: Loads of talent coming back especially beau ash and their qb. Poised for a deep playoff run and maybe a shot at state.
2. Xavier: lost alot from last year but have a great coach to motivate these kids. Tough first game against West De pere, but should coast once that is over with conference being decided against waupaca.
3. Little Chute: This may be a shocker to everyone, but i would not sleep on LC. had a very young team last year and won three games. Lose Keysers but bring back Albers , Job, and ciske. Dont play xavier so should have one less loss to worry about.
4. Clintonville: Their program has been rebuilding but looks to have a strong campeign this year.
5. Freedom: First playoff berth in awhile. Lose Jason Binz as head coach so a new coach and new system may take a while to fit together, but still could fight for playoffs.
6. FVL: First playoff berth in a few years last year with loads of seniors gone. A lot of young and unproven players, but could find ways to win games.
7. Berlin: showed potential winning three games last year, but just not enough depth or talent to greatly improve.
8. Ripon: went winless last year. Team has a lot to prove this season. Should be better, but still a long way to go until they get back to their supremecy.
9. Winneconne: New coach young team struggle all year and should finish at the bottom.

Little Chute has had more talent than most of their fellow conference opponents the last 10+ years and have done virtually nothing with it. Take away the 2003-04 season when Jimmy Johnson single-handedly carried the Mustangs, and Little Chute has had quite a run of mediocrity despite numerous seasons of high expectations.

Despite catching a break and not having to play Xavier this season, why should anyone think the 2012-13 version will be any different?
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baker18
#3 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:44:08 AM(UTC)
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Baker18 wrote:
With high school sports starting in a few weeks i figured i would create a pole about things figure to shape up in teh EVC this year in football. What is everyones predictions.

1. Waupaca: Loads of talent coming back especially beau ash and their qb. Poised for a deep playoff run and maybe a shot at state.
2. Xavier: lost alot from last year but have a great coach to motivate these kids. Tough first game against West De pere, but should coast once that is over with conference being decided against waupaca.
3. Little Chute: This may be a shocker to everyone, but i would not sleep on LC. had a very young team last year and won three games. Lose Keysers but bring back Albers , Job, and ciske. Dont play xavier so should have one less loss to worry about.
4. Clintonville: Their program has been rebuilding but looks to have a strong campeign this year.
5. Freedom: First playoff berth in awhile. Lose Jason Binz as head coach so a new coach and new system may take a while to fit together, but still could fight for playoffs.
6. FVL: First playoff berth in a few years last year with loads of seniors gone. A lot of young and unproven players, but could find ways to win games.
7. Berlin: showed potential winning three games last year, but just not enough depth or talent to greatly improve.
8. Ripon: went winless last year. Team has a lot to prove this season. Should be better, but still a long way to go until they get back to their supremecy.
9. Winneconne: New coach young team struggle all year and should finish at the bottom.

Little Chute has had more talent than most of their fellow conference opponents the last 10+ years and have done virtually nothing with it. Take away the 2003-04 season when Jimmy Johnson single-handedly carried the Mustangs, and Little Chute has had quite a run of mediocrity despite numerous seasons of high expectations.

Despite catching a break and not having to play Xavier this season, why should anyone think the 2012-13 version will be any different?



Your right about under achieving w better talent but that is because of poor coaching. I think this year will be different because they aren't expected to do much. Former Kimberly coach Steve jorgenson worked w offense this summer. Rumor has it this may be coach enz last year if he does poorly again so he is out to prove something and frankly the conference isn't as good as it was three years ago w ripon winneconne and clintonville being down. All these reasons make me think Lc will b different this year but nothing will surprise me if they do poor
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:08:10 AM(UTC)
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I would think other than Xavier and Waupaca it should be pretty much wide open after that.

I agree with WIAC on LC other than basketball I have a hard time having much faith in their ability to put a whole season together. They seem to always look great on paper in football and baseball and then under achieve for whatever reason.

I was impressed with Berlins ability to battle last year and I think they will be a tough game for everyone. I do agree that they are a little light on pure athletes, but if there is a sport where heart and coaching can lead you to some victories football is it.

I have more familiarity with Winneconne as we have relatives with kids at that school and probably see more of those games than our own school. They have some talent coming back and I think some changes in coaching will help to utilize some of that talent. I know they had relatively low participation numbers last year, but they are not any younger in the key positions than most school in the EVC.

It is hard to say who is going to be down or up in high school football more so than almost any other sport in my opinion. Waupaca has a great program and they have good numbers to keep reloading and the coaching to do it, so hats off to them for building that program. Xavier just never seems to drop to the levels other schools in our conference for whatever reason(s). As I stated after that a break here or there, a stand out year by a couple of players and any of the remaining teams could get to 4 wins.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:20:21 AM(UTC)
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thepackof4 wrote:
I would think other than Xavier and Waupaca it should be pretty much wide open after that.

I agree with WIAC on LC other than basketball I have a hard time having much faith in their ability to put a whole season together. They seem to always look great on paper in football and baseball and then under achieve for whatever reason.

I was impressed with Berlins ability to battle last year and I think they will be a tough game for everyone. I do agree that they are a little light on pure athletes, but if there is a sport where heart and coaching can lead you to some victories football is it.

I have more familiarity with Winneconne as we have relatives with kids at that school and probably see more of those games than our own school. They have some talent coming back and I think some changes in coaching will help to utilize some of that talent. I know they had relatively low participation numbers last year, but they are not any younger in the key positions than most school in the EVC.

It is hard to say who is going to be down or up in high school football more so than almost any other sport in my opinion. Waupaca has a great program and they have good numbers to keep reloading and the coaching to do it, so hats off to them for building that program. Xavier just never seems to drop to the levels other schools in our conference for whatever reason(s). As I stated after that a break here or there, a stand out year by a couple of players and any of the remaining teams could get to 4 wins.


LC always looks good on paper in football not baseball. They dont get a high number of turnouts for baseball. As far as football goes. They do look good but underachieve because the coaches dont know how to find an offensive system that works for them. Last year they were balanced years past run too much or pass to much. Coaching why they underachieve in baseball and football. So with basketball they have great coaches who know how to coach. Judging by that statement you made. You think LC will win conference for a fourth straight year in basketball>
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walleye38
#6 Posted : Monday, July 16, 2012 4:24:57 PM(UTC)
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I think freedom is going to be a lot better. First of all Jason Bins was not a good head coach doing a lot of bad calls. The coaches are not really changing having same defense coaches and offense coordinator is the freshman coach who has had all the players. The team is also very talented
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theizzone
#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:05:56 PM(UTC)
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I don't think any coach can have an impact on how good/bad a team is. If you don't have the players, you're not going to win. Just because a coach stays with a group of players throughout high school doesn't mean it translates into wins. Varsity football is in a completely different universe than freshman ball. That being said, I have Waupaca 1 and Xavier 2. Everyone else is up for grabs. Conference is very weak this year IMO.
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lcchubby
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:23:39 PM(UTC)
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THE IZZONE wrote:
I don't think any coach can have an impact on how good/bad a team is. If you don't have the players, you're not going to win. Just because a coach stays with a group of players throughout high school doesn't mean it translates into wins. Varsity football is in a completely different universe than freshman ball. That being said, I have Waupaca 1 and Xavier 2. Everyone else is up for grabs. Conference is very weak this year IMO.

I completely disagree about coaches making a difference. LC has been beaten by teams with far less talent for the last ten+ years. Getting the kids to buy in and believe in what your selling is the biggest job of the coach. Also, surrounding yourself with good assistants and trusting them to do thier job is huge. That doesn't happen in LC. Thats a big reason why a lot of good assistant coaches have left. So my opinion on that is that you can have all the talent in the world but if you don't have a good coach to bring it all together you are not going to win.
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