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baker18
#1 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 12:50:32 PM(UTC)
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So after two weeks in the 2017 D3 football season, national powerhouse UW Whitewater has not only fallen out of the top 10, but out of the top 25 completely following an 0-2 start. I don't know when the last time this team even had two losses in a season was let alone during the regular season. It appears that the UWO game in three weeks is a must win or they will be out of the post season. What has happened to the Warhawks
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#2 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 12:54:25 PM(UTC)

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They lost two games in 2015, one of those being the playoff semifinal loss to Mount Union. They lost three games in 2012.
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#3 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 12:57:59 PM(UTC)
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wiscopetty wrote:
They lost two games in 2015, one of those being the playoff semifinal loss to Mount Union. They lost three games in 2012.



Ok so 2012 was the last time they had multiple regular season losses. What is going on are they starting to fall off, or has UWO taken over as the team to beat in the WIAC
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#4 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 12:58:58 PM(UTC)

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Leipold left to coach at Buffalo. They haven't quite been at the elite level since then.
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#5 Posted : Monday, September 11, 2017 1:05:41 PM(UTC)
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thecrackerjack wrote:
Leipold left to coach at Buffalo. They haven't quite been at the elite level since then.

Bullis took them to the national quarterfinal last season before losing to a great john Carroll team. Seems like they are still elite to me, I am just saying maybe UWO has taken over as the team Whitewater once was and they may be starting a run of their own.
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Concordia-Moorhead defeated No. 15 UW-Whitewater 25-17, sending the Warhawks to 0-2 for the first time since 1999. That shows you how long it has been since this has happened. I would say it is time to panic
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:12:21 AM(UTC)
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You can't stay on top forever, especially with a coaching change. It's ok someone else can be on top. The Blue Devils got a huge win, can they keep it up? It's a gauntlet to get through this conference with several teams always ranked.
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thecrackerjack wrote:
Leipold left to coach at Buffalo. They haven't quite been at the elite level since then.

This is the Occam's razor answer.

D3 football is a different animal. Elite coaches at that level excel despite a fraction of the resources available to coaches in D1 and face strong admitting requirements for incoming players. Nobody majors in football in D3. Leipold was a once-in-a-generation coach; it's not to say that Whitewater won't ever get back to that level but it's gonna be tough.
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wiscopetty wrote:
thecrackerjack wrote:
Leipold left to coach at Buffalo. They haven't quite been at the elite level since then.

This is the Occam's razor answer.

D3 football is a different animal. Elite coaches at that level excel despite a fraction of the resources available to coaches in D1 and face strong admitting requirements for incoming players. Nobody majors in football in D3. Leipold was a once-in-a-generation coach; it's not to say that Whitewater won't ever get back to that level but it's gonna be tough.



They were still good last season, how does one year make that much of a difference when they have a ton of their roster coming back Is my question
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:20:59 PM(UTC)

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wiscopetty wrote:
thecrackerjack wrote:
Leipold left to coach at Buffalo. They haven't quite been at the elite level since then.

This is the Occam's razor answer.

D3 football is a different animal. Elite coaches at that level excel despite a fraction of the resources available to coaches in D1 and face strong admitting requirements for incoming players. Nobody majors in football in D3. Leipold was a once-in-a-generation coach; it's not to say that Whitewater won't ever get back to that level but it's gonna be tough.


In fairness though, Berezowitz set him up in a real good position.
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Dynasties in all sports are typically tied to coaching regimes.

A long-time, successful head coach leaves/retires, a couple key assistants bolt, and, invariably, the dynasty begins to crumble within a couple seasons.

Their are exceptions of course, such as a competent assistant taking over the program and much of the assistant coaching staff remaining in place. But that's rare and even then doesn't always survive the test of time.
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