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lonewolf1
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:31:42 PM(UTC)
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Well now that the High School season is coming to a close its about that time to start the AAU discussion!! I'm a big AAU fan and are wondering which teams are you looking forward to seeing this spring/summer at the 15, 16 and 17 levels.

17s: I like TP Elite, WI Swing, and WI Playground Elite as the 3 top 17U teams in the state, but I'm looking forward to seeing a few others like: WI Shooters, WI Playmakers, and DTA Spartans.

16s: I think its a 2 team race between Ray and Milwaukee Runnin Rebels. I think the Rebels have the more talented trio in Looney, Burrell, and Key but Ray Allen may have the deeper team. I also, like Playground Elite with Jonathon Carson and all those guards that they had last yr.

15s: I think its going to come down to the same 3 teams that it always comes down too. Playground Elite has been the most dominant team in this age group historically with Darion King, Tyrese Pinson, Dee Woods and Malik Brown as their top players. You got the Milwaukee Young Legends with Diamond Stone, Andre Carroll, and Will Watkins. And DTA Spartans who I think might be the deepest team with Karim Cole, Andrew Davis, TreAntae Mason, and Tywon Bressler. They also have a lot of other guards and they feature Matt Heldt in the middle I think. Some other teams I really like are Lakeshore Lakers, WI Swing, and WI Bulldogs.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:28:44 PM(UTC)
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I heard the WI Blizzard 17 are loaded.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:31:24 AM(UTC)
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Hopefully this talented crop of 17's will get a chance to play one another in the NY2LA tournaments. I don't know of another forum where they will meet again. I am interested to see updated rosters as there has been lots of shuffling this off season.
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#4 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 2:21:37 PM(UTC)
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Hopefully this talented crop of 17's will get a chance to play one another in the NY2LA tournaments. I don't know of another forum where they will meet again. I am interested to see updated rosters as there has been lots of shuffling this off season.


I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..
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#5 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 3:55:38 PM(UTC)
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.
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#6 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 11:33:01 PM(UTC)
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.


Yea it would be silly to have that kid play 15U but I'm hearing that's the plan... his dad is different type of guy tho from what I hear so no really ever knows what to predict from him.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:47:58 PM(UTC)
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Its not arumor. Mr. Stone has recruited a team, which consists of Diamond Stone, Tywon Bressler, Joe Binyoti, Garrison Goode, and a few more great talents. Diamonds father is not the head coach but he is one of the coaches. This will be a great summer to watch..
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:48:50 PM(UTC)
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Its not arumor. Mr. Stone has recruited a team, which consists of Diamond Stone, Tywon Bressler, Joe Binyoti, Garrison Goode, and a few more great talents. Diamonds father is not the head coach but he is one of the coaches. This will be a great summer to watch..
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:17:13 PM(UTC)
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[quote=bluesnaketb]Its not arumor. Mr. Stone has recruited a team, which consists of Diamond Stone, Tywon Bressler, Joe Binyoti, Garrison Goode, and a few more great talents. Diamonds father is not the head coach but he is one of the coaches. This will be a great summer to watch..[/quote

Should be a fun summer indeed.. Joe and Diamond will be a great 1-2 punch... the rest of the guys should fit in well around them.
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#10 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 1:13:01 PM(UTC)
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Please dont count the WI Starz 17U out of this picture. They will be a very solid team this summer. They beat some quality programs last season on the July circuit.
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#11 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 2:15:59 PM(UTC)
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I have a 16U boy player that is looking for an AAU team, is there anything available? Lives near Fdl very good point/shooting guard. Please let me know thanks.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:43:00 PM(UTC)
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Highlander08 wrote:
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.

If I remember it correctly Wilson's EYBL team only won about four total games... All it is dribble and shoot. Diamond would never get better playing with those guys. He's will get all of the exposure he needs by winning at 16U
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#13 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:25:36 AM(UTC)
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bluesnaketb wrote:
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.

If I remember it correctly Wilson's EYBL team only won about four total games... All it is dribble and shoot. Diamond would never get better playing with those guys. He's will get all of the exposure he needs by winning at 16U


Yea Playground Elite did have a rough summer last yr. From what I heard they had a lot of injuries though. Cimmeon Bowers was out most of the summer and was never really healthy from what I saw, also Arroyo Edwards was hurt most of the summer, and Jordan Fouse got hurt right before the July live period. I've never been to a eybl league game, but I'm sure its hard to win without any size in that environment. I hope it does work out for Diamond though, because that kid has real talent. I just worry about that team because I think that he's the only freshman that they have that is ready to play 16U. I wish them the best.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:26:34 PM(UTC)
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.

If I remember it correctly Wilson's EYBL team only won about four total games... All it is dribble and shoot. Diamond would never get better playing with those guys. He's will get all of the exposure he needs by winning at 16U



Diamond wouldn't get better by playing the best big men the country has to offer? As for exposure, the EYBL's schedule is the first thing Major D1 coaches look at when planning recruiting trips. The W/L column is always pertinent but because these coaches are eyeing individual players performances it really doesn't matter. When a coach looks at AAU team rosters during evaluation periods a 15 year old on a 17U roster is very impressive and exceptionally rare. Essentially he is selling himself short. Now if he's making this decision because he wants to play for his Dad that makes a little more sense to me, but to characterize the EYBL as a "dribble and shoot" league as if it's lesser than whatever 16U tournaments he will be competing in is absurd.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:30:26 PM(UTC)
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.

If I remember it correctly Wilson's EYBL team only won about four total games... All it is dribble and shoot. Diamond would never get better playing with those guys. He's will get all of the exposure he needs by winning at 16U



Diamond wouldn't get better by playing the best big men the country has to offer? As for exposure, the EYBL's schedule is the first thing Major D1 coaches look at when planning recruiting trips. The W/L column is always pertinent but because these coaches are eyeing individual players performances it really doesn't matter. When a coach looks at AAU team rosters during evaluation periods a 15 year old on a 17U roster is very impressive and exceptionally rare. Essentially he is selling himself short. Now if he's making this decision because he wants to play for his Dad that makes a little more sense to me, but to characterize the EYBL as a "dribble and shoot" league as if it's lesser than whatever 16U tournaments he will be competing in is absurd.


I couldn't agree with you more. I think Diamond playing 16U is more of a benefit to the kids playing with him than it is for him. He's an extraordinary talent, and I'm sure he will more than hold his own, I just think a lot of those kids are trying to "piggy back" off of name and success. Rumor has it that a few of the players on that team are already talking about transferring to Dominican next year. Diamond would be much better suited playing at the highest level possible and the EYBL is definately that. They have 16 alumni playing in this yrs Final 4, including 6 players from Kentucky (the entire starting 5). How can you do better than that for exposure. But if I had a son that age that I didn't think could get that type of attention on his own, I would probably have him play with him too. It's easier than doing the work yourself I suppose.
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Highlander08 wrote:
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I agree with that.. its going to be interesting to see where the kids from Playground Warriors' 16U team will play this yr at the 17U level, although if Koenig went to the Swing I have a hard time believing he went alone.

The other age groups as well, I know Ray Allen Select has been very aggressive in trying to upgrade their roster some, as I'm sure most teams have been. And at the 15s I'm not sure their will be much movement although I have heard rumors that Diamond Stone's father has started his own team and has Joe Binyoti and Tywon Bressler playing on it. I have also heard that Andre Carroll and Will Watkins from Tosa West have joined up with Playground Elite... lots going on, but we won't know until everyone lifts the curtains and shows what they have..


It's my understanding that Whichmann and Dodge went to Swing also. Dodge and Koenig at 6'3 Whichmann and Fuller at 6'6 and Fischer at 6'9 (even though hes listed at 6'10) Thats lots of size and lots of talent.


If the rumor is true about Diamond Stones father starting a team, I hope that doesnt mean Diamond wont also be on Elite. Dominican will benefit from continued chemistry building between Wilson and Stone. Diamond also will not find better competion/exposure than the EYBL.

If I remember it correctly Wilson's EYBL team only won about four total games... All it is dribble and shoot. Diamond would never get better playing with those guys. He's will get all of the exposure he needs by winning at 16U


Stone played varsity, right? So then in my opinion, taking a step back to 16u is ridiculous. Why play JV when you start on var?

http://www.nikeeyb.com/w...-Session-1-Schedule.pdf

Looking at that list of teams... Playing against those kids week in and week out would help anyone who has goals of making the next level. Seems like a missed opportunity if he doesn't play EYBL.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:22:24 AM(UTC)
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1iron wrote:
I have a 16U boy player that is looking for an AAU team, is there anything available? Lives near Fdl very good point/shooting guard. Please let me know thanks.


Chris Kellett has a strong WI Blizzard 16 team. He is from Neenah and is an asst. at Lawrence...their website has his contact info. There are more teams with the Blizzard as well. Based in the Fox Valley.
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I hear Heritage Christian is an AAU team to watch out for.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:12:54 AM(UTC)
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Diamond Stone is a terrific player and will be a great player but i think playing his grade is what should happen..... playing up would bring nothing but positive things but Looney Didnt. Tokoto didnt. Dekker didnt. Lucious didnt. Playing up is overrated in my opinion.......
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Lil_snacks wrote:
Diamond Stone is a terrific player and will be a great player but i think playing his grade is what should happen..... playing up would bring nothing but positive things but Looney Didnt. Tokoto didnt. Dekker didnt. Lucious didnt. Playing up is overrated in my opinion.......


The big difference (literally) here is that all those guys can play the 1 or 2, where as Stone, primarily a post player, would probably get more experience playing up against other bigs. There aren't that many 6'9" 15-16 year olds for him to improve his post skills. Not as critical for a Looney or Dekker to have to seek older, bigger competition in order to hone their guard skills. Stone was a man among boys during the season, except for the game against a similar-sized Luke Fischer, who led Germantown with 19pts (Stone- 8pts). Having said all that, Stone will still become an exceptional ball player.
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Here is an old article about Jeremy Tyler, a junior (at the time) with an NBA-sized body, whose family went to this extreme to find Tyler suitable competition. Not exactly Diamond's situation, but the same goal.

http://sports.yahoo.com/...ews?slug=dw-tyler042209

As a side note to this, Tyler was drafted 39th overall in the 2011 draft after 2 years of professional play overseas, but has bounced back and forth between the D-league and the Golden State Warriors this season.
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Lil_snacks wrote:
Diamond Stone is a terrific player and will be a great player but i think playing his grade is what should happen..... playing up would bring nothing but positive things but Looney Didnt. Tokoto didnt. Dekker didnt. Lucious didnt. Playing up is overrated in my opinion.......


clouded judgement..... please know your facts before posting. lonney played up until his 7th grade year. the kid played on a team playing 17u last summer. lucious played up as well in his younger years. points like this is what bothers me and is the reason that basketball is so average here in the state. as a freshman on a varsity team the kid played up, right? held his own too. any player who plays in college will be playing up against players 1 to 3 years older then them. so playing up is overrated? you don't know much. see the priority of most is to win and not to play and compete. besides if he played in shoe box against his self he still would be better then most.
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Lil_snacks wrote:
Diamond Stone is a terrific player and will be a great player but i think playing his grade is what should happen..... playing up would bring nothing but positive things but Looney Didnt. Tokoto didnt. Dekker didnt. Lucious didnt. Playing up is overrated in my opinion.......


Check ur facts all of these players played up looney has been playing u17 since 8th grade same with korie lucious dekker and Tokoto played up on occasions if a player can make an immediate impact and get valuable minutes against older stronger competition that will make him better which diamond needs to develope a feel for the game why not have him play up...if he's not gonna get valuable minutes then I see a reason to not play up....every player would be a case by case scenario but the more time diamond gets on the court whether its u15-u17 will make him better he is going to stay a high major prospect Regardless and I hope for the best from all our talented wisconsin players
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jdub030 wrote:
Lil_snacks wrote:
Diamond Stone is a terrific player and will be a great player but i think playing his grade is what should happen..... playing up would bring nothing but positive things but Looney Didnt. Tokoto didnt. Dekker didnt. Lucious didnt. Playing up is overrated in my opinion.......


Check ur facts all of these players played up looney has been playing u17 since 8th grade same with korie lucious dekker and Tokoto played up on occasions if a player can make an immediate impact and get valuable minutes against older stronger competition that will make him better which diamond needs to develope a feel for the game why not have him play up...if he's not gonna get valuable minutes then I see a reason to not play up....every player would be a case by case scenario but the more time diamond gets on the court whether its u15-u17 will make him better he is going to stay a high major prospect Regardless and I hope for the best from all our talented wisconsin players



But those players everyday teams played their age groups even looney.... He went to nationals etc. in his grade...... Yes these players have played up on occassion but to not play your grade at all isnt always necassary in my opinion.....
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lonewolf wrote:
Well now that the High School season is coming to a close its about that time to start the AAU discussion!! I'm a big AAU fan and are wondering which teams are you looking forward to seeing this spring/summer at the 15, 16 and 17 levels.

17s: I like TP Elite, WI Swing, and WI Playground Elite as the 3 top 17U teams in the state, but I'm looking forward to seeing a few others like: WI Shooters, WI Playmakers, and DTA Spartans.

16s: I think its a 2 team race between Ray and Milwaukee Runnin Rebels. I think the Rebels have the more talented trio in Looney, Burrell, and Key but Ray Allen may have the deeper team. I also, like Playground Elite with Jonathon Carson and all those guards that they had last yr.

15s: I think its going to come down to the same 3 teams that it always comes down too. Playground Elite has been the most dominant team in this age group historically with Darion King, Tyrese Pinson, Dee Woods and Malik Brown as their top players. You got the Milwaukee Young Legends with Diamond Stone, Andre Carroll, and Will Watkins. And DTA Spartans who I think might be the deepest team with Karim Cole, Andrew Davis, TreAntae Mason, and Tywon Bressler. They also have a lot of other guards and they feature Matt Heldt in the middle I think. Some other teams I really like are Lakeshore Lakers, WI Swing, and WI Bulldogs.


I was looking at the scores from the Day 1 of the NY2LA Swish N Dish and saw some of the results for some teams that have mentioned in this post.
15U:
Playground Elite had an impressive win last night against All Ohio Red. That team was HUGE, I believe they had 6 kids 6'5 or taller.

Playground Warriors blew out IL Rising Stars and definately made a statement.

DTA Spartans also had a double digit win over Mac Irvin Fire.

16U:
Ray Allen Select took home a win over the Mac Irvin Fire.

The biggest surprise that I saw last night was how poorly Milwaukee Young Legends played last night against the IL Wolves. This team has dominated this post with talk of Diamond Stone and they lost last night by 23 points!!! Diamond looked good, and so did Djade Denson, but those freshmen guards that they have CLEARLY are not ready for that level of competition.

17U:
WI Swing beat Mac Irvin Fire by 3 last night. Mac Irvin features Jahlil Okafor and Jabari Parker, so that alone makes that a great for those kids.

Playground Elite also beat Louisville Magic by 13.

All and all, a very good showing from our WI teams...
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