09-10 Big Ten, Big East, ACC, Big 12

Rodey


I refuse to buy into Ohio State being better and Purdue being better. Especially Purdue, who have had high expectations at the start of the season for the past few years and have crapped their pants big time.

As for the ACC, North Carolina and Duke both have restocked. North Carolina isn't going to be as good as last year obviously but I'd be surprised if they lost more than 6 or 7 games all year. I think Duke will actually be improved from last years team. They have a ton of size now with the Plumlee brothers and Kelly standing at 6'10" with Zoubek and Thomas still being around. I don't think any of these guys will be offensive studs, but it gives them the post presence they've lacked the past few years. Really, the only big hit they took was losing Henderson. The fact that Dawkins was able to come in early completely erases the departure of Elliot Williams.

Mr Hummel Makes the Boilers go in a lot of different ways, but there is no debate he makes the difference for that team when healthy. He was not healthy for most of last season.

Most people seem to agree that Duke will be improved from last season despite their thin backcourt.

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3points


You are way off on Purdue. They had almost zero expecations on them two years ago and were one of the youngest teams in the nation, yet went 15-3 and won the B10. Last year the expectations were very much elevated but they suffered through a rash of injuries that really hurt them. Hummel is the most important player on that team and he was hurt the entire season and missed 5 games. Purdue lost 3 of those 5. He is back and healthy this year along with Jajuan Johnson and E'twaun Moore. Johnson is full of potential and was one of the most improved players in the nation last year. He will likely be even better this year. Add in Chris Kramer and Keaton Grant, two solid role players. And Lewis Jackson should make the freshman to sophomore jump and will improve on a pretty solid first year.

Maybe you have selective memory but unless I am mistaken UW went 16-2 that season and won both the regular season Big10 title and the Big10 tourney.

They did get swept by Purdue that season though.....so chalk it up as a moral victory?

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Memhoops714

3points


You are way off on Purdue. They had almost zero expecations on them two years ago and were one of the youngest teams in the nation, yet went 15-3 and won the B10. Last year the expectations were very much elevated but they suffered through a rash of injuries that really hurt them. Hummel is the most important player on that team and he was hurt the entire season and missed 5 games. Purdue lost 3 of those 5. He is back and healthy this year along with Jajuan Johnson and E'twaun Moore. Johnson is full of potential and was one of the most improved players in the nation last year. He will likely be even better this year. Add in Chris Kramer and Keaton Grant, two solid role players. And Lewis Jackson should make the freshman to sophomore jump and will improve on a pretty solid first year.

Maybe you have selective memory but unless I am mistaken UW went 16-2 that season and won both the regular season Big10 title and the Big10 tourney.

They did get swept by Purdue that season though.....so chalk it up as a moral victory?

Sorry Mem. I just was reading about that team and how they went 15-3, and I completely forgot about Wisconsin. As an Illinois fan, that is a season I am still trying to forget.
Regardless, Purdue had zero expectations and had a pretty amazing year.

A healthy Hummel makes all the difference.

Bigtengeeks had a pretty nice breakdown of Purdue, and the observation that stood out the best to me was that Purdue is a very poor rebounding team on both ends of the court....besides Hummel.

In 2007-2008 Hummel was one of the most efficient rebounders in the country, and he was the only good rebounder on their roster. In 2008-2009 his production on the boards dropped off dramatically, and therefore Purdue was one of the worst rebounding teams in the Big10. They played amazind defense (in terms of points per possession) but they would often shoot themselves in the foot by giving up offensive rebounds.

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Boosie Boo

nightrider89


IMO
 
1). ACC
2). Bigeast
3). Big ten
4). Big twelve
 
ACC last 11 years - 4 national championship and 12 final four apperances
Big eats last 11 years - 3 national championships and 8 final four apperances
Big ten last 11 years - 1 national championship and 8 final four apperances
Big twelve last 11 years - 1 natoinal championship and 6 final four apperances
 
(SEC side note - 2 national championships and 4 final four apperances)
(Pac 10 - 4 final four apperances and 0 national championships)
(Confrence USA - One final four apperance)
(Colonial - One final four apperance)
 
Numbers Aren't for sure

the past has nothing to do with the 09-10 season besides what is coming from the past a.k.a. returners and Big Ten might have the top returning talent in the country imo. and dont put 2 paragraphs of stats and then say "numbers arent for sure" ha  wow

 The numbers aren't for sure as in one or two final four apperances offf?????? but i am glad you took your time to say that.  And if you ever where in a history class you would know that histrory tends to repeat itself.

The only place where success comes before work is in the dictionary

Alando Tucker bud,
 
You keep mentioning that Purdue made the elite 8, actually they lost to UConn in the sweet 16 72-60.  Here is a link to support my answer.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/bracket

kicknrun


Alando Tucker bud,
 
You keep mentioning that Purdue made the elite 8, actually they lost to UConn in the sweet 16 72-60.  Here is a link to support my answer.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/bracket

Kicknrun bud,

You are correct.  I was thinking that UConn played two Big Ten teams in a row but wasn't right.  Again though Sweet 16 is rarely ever underachieving especially when your best player is playing injured the whole year.  

Peter La Fleur: I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal.

Wizzler


Big Ten is better!  When was the last time they won an ACC-Big Ten Challenge?  Don't give me matchup bull crap.  I will not buy that match ups were in the ACC favor every year.

Big Ten is never better than the ACC, how can they be the best in the country?

honest question--are you serious?? there is NO QUESTION that the ACC is annually better than the Big Ten but as far as THIS YEAR goes, anything can happen. patterns have no effect on the potential outcome of a new year's games. all you gotta look at is that the ACC barely beat the Big Ten last year (6-5) and the Big Ten returns way more talent. that is in the practical numbers. the ACC could win for sure but I'm picking the B10 with no second guessing.
IMO, penn state (vs. virginia), northwestern (nc state), michigan (bc), ohio state (fsu), and minnesota (miami) are for sure wins, with at most one of those predictions wrong. then i see maryland (vs. indy) and Duke (Sconnie) the only for sure ACC wins. msu-nc is a toss up which i see msu winning due to experience and overall talent, v. tech-iowa a toss up (vt probably wins), purdue a probable win over wake (same analysis as msu-nc but wake has less experience and talent than nc), and finally illinois and clemson a toss up.
my final prediction ---
Big Ten: 7
ACC: 4

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Peter La Fleur: I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal.

Boosie Boo

Wizzler


Big Ten is better!  When was the last time they won an ACC-Big Ten Challenge?  Don't give me matchup bull crap.  I will not buy that match ups were in the ACC favor every year.

Big Ten is never better than the ACC, how can they be the best in the country?

honest question--are you serious?? there is NO QUESTION that the ACC is annually better than the Big Ten but as far as THIS YEAR goes, anything can happen. patterns have no effect on the potential outcome of a new year's games. all you gotta look at is that the ACC barely beat the Big Ten last year (6-5) and the Big Ten returns way more talent. that is in the practical numbers. the ACC could win for sure but I'm picking the B10 with no second guessing.
IMO, penn state (vs. virginia), northwestern (nc state), michigan (bc), ohio state (fsu), and minnesota (miami) are for sure wins, with at most one of those predictions wrong. then i see maryland (vs. indy) and Duke (Sconnie) the only for sure ACC wins. msu-nc is a toss up which i see msu winning due to experience and overall talent, v. tech-iowa a toss up (vt probably wins), purdue a probable win over wake (same analysis as msu-nc but wake has less experience and talent than nc), and finally illinois and clemson a toss up.
my final prediction ---
Big Ten: 7
ACC: 4

While those are very winnable games, you clearly must not watch a lot of college basketball because nothing is a for sure win ask Wisconsin, Minnesota, Syracuse, etc. the last few years losing to D-II and lower D-1 schools.

"If you knew better, you'd do better."- Young Buck

Quinnster10

Boosie Boo

Wizzler


Big Ten is better!  When was the last time they won an ACC-Big Ten Challenge?  Don't give me matchup bull crap.  I will not buy that match ups were in the ACC favor every year.

Big Ten is never better than the ACC, how can they be the best in the country?

honest question--are you serious?? there is NO QUESTION that the ACC is annually better than the Big Ten but as far as THIS YEAR goes, anything can happen. patterns have no effect on the potential outcome of a new year's games. all you gotta look at is that the ACC barely beat the Big Ten last year (6-5) and the Big Ten returns way more talent. that is in the practical numbers. the ACC could win for sure but I'm picking the B10 with no second guessing.
IMO, penn state (vs. virginia), northwestern (nc state), michigan (bc), ohio state (fsu), and minnesota (miami) are for sure wins, with at most one of those predictions wrong. then i see maryland (vs. indy) and Duke (Sconnie) the only for sure ACC wins. msu-nc is a toss up which i see msu winning due to experience and overall talent, v. tech-iowa a toss up (vt probably wins), purdue a probable win over wake (same analysis as msu-nc but wake has less experience and talent than nc), and finally illinois and clemson a toss up.
my final prediction ---
Big Ten: 7
ACC: 4

While those are very winnable games, you clearly must not watch a lot of college basketball because nothing is a for sure win ask Wisconsin, Minnesota, Syracuse, etc. the last few years losing to D-II and lower D-1 schools.

ok i'll make sure to ask those 3 teams...and for sure was a figure of speech, not literal dummy. for sure as in i have very high confidence in those predictions

nightrider89

Boosie Boo

nightrider89


IMO
 
1). ACC
2). Bigeast
3). Big ten
4). Big twelve
 
ACC last 11 years - 4 national championship and 12 final four apperances
Big eats last 11 years - 3 national championships and 8 final four apperances
Big ten last 11 years - 1 national championship and 8 final four apperances
Big twelve last 11 years - 1 natoinal championship and 6 final four apperances
 
(SEC side note - 2 national championships and 4 final four apperances)
(Pac 10 - 4 final four apperances and 0 national championships)
(Confrence USA - One final four apperance)
(Colonial - One final four apperance)
 
Numbers Aren't for sure and on a side note i enjoy munching butt

the past has nothing to do with the 09-10 season besides what is coming from the past a.k.a. returners and Big Ten might have the top returning talent in the country imo. and dont put 2 paragraphs of stats and then say "numbers arent for sure" ha  wow

 The numbers aren't for sure as in one or two final four apperances offf?????? but i am glad you took your time to say that.  And if you ever where in a history class you would know that histrory tends to repeat itself.

first of all, 'one or two final four appearances off' would be significant enough to the point where you shouldntve tried to rattle off past stats anyways. and "history repeats itself" is a terrible way to put it but obviously in sports there are patterns and some teams that will have consistant success. a bigger point is the RETURNING TALENT FROM LAST YEAR, as that is the biggest factor regarding the outcome of the upcoming season. patterns and tradition are reasons the prestigious schools you are referring to are always competitive and bring in the most talented players and coach them well but solely look at the players that will be playing this year and you see that the B10 returns its entire first team all conference and then some. and history classes dont concern sports whatsoever tool.